Court Rules Credit Card Rewards TAXABLE!… In Some Cases – The Credit Shifu

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A court here in the US has just ruled that profits from large scale manufactured spending are taxable! And when the IRS comes after you, it is very hard to get out of it.

Take a listen to the case of Mr and Mrs Anikeev. The case pertains to their actions in the years 2013 and 2014, but it has only just been resolved.

So these two people both had american express cards. A card we will call the Old Blue Cash, basically an old version of this card. I found an article about how the rewards system used to work…

you earn 5% cash back at grocery stores, gas stations, and pharmacies. The card offers no annual fee, but you have to spend a minimum of $6,500 on the credit card before the bonus categories start earning 5% cash back.

So basically once you have surpassed $6500 in spending for the year, you can earn unlimited 5% cash back at supermarkets! Doesn’t that seem like a recipe for abuse? And abuse is what this couple did. Here is their strategy as described in the court ruling.

The Strategy

To generate as many Reward Dollars as possible, petitioners used the 1005 Card and the 1001 Card (American Express cards) to buy as many Visa gift cards as they could from local grocery stores and pharmacies. In addition to the values of the gift cards, petitioners were charged service fees for the gift cards of between 0.8% and 1.2% of the gift cards’ face values. They used the gift cards to purchase money orders and were charged service fees for the money orders between 0.07% and 0.33% of the dollar amounts of the money orders. They deposited the money orders into their bank accounts.

That money would then be used to pay off the cards, but they were earning 5% rewards with fees of around 1.5% so they were making a 3.5% profit on every dollar.

The case states all of petitioners’ charges of more than $400 in single transactions with the American Express cards during 2013 and 2014 were for Visa gift cards, reloadable debit cards, or money orders. They spend $1.2 million in 2013 on these things and over $5 million in 2014.

And using this method they earned over $300,000 in extra income, $35k in 2013 and $276k in 2014.

Now obviously Amex closed their accounts, personally I am surprised they were able to get away with it for two years. And now Amex has limits on cashback in the supermarket category on many of its cards. For example on the Amex Gold 4x points per dollar is limited to $26,000 per year and 3% and 6% cash back at supermarkets on the blue cash and blue cash preferred cards is limited to $6000 in spending per year.

So they have flipped it round, after $6000 it is 1%, where as before over $6500 was infinite 5%!

As for the couple in question, they now owe the IRS probably up to $100,000 depending on their income plus interest for their manufactured spending escapade. The judge ruled that Visa gift cards counted as “cash equivalents” rather than products and thus the rebates from their purchases were taxable. Now dont get worried, if you buy a visa gift card and then use that card in the normal way, to buy products, then it would not count and the rewards would not be taxable, it is only if you find some way to use that gift card to pay off your credit card that those rewards would become taxable, and the card companies and the IRS will only notice if you do it on a large scale.

But I would say the moral of the story is don’t do manufactured spending! There are a lot of other ways to earn credit card points, such as doing referrals. Amex is now offering up to 35,000 points for every person you refer on your amex gold account. There are also sign up bonuses, right now the Amex Platinum is offering 75,000 points and 10 points per dollar on gas for a limited time as a sign up bonus.

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The Credit Shifu February 25, 2021 - 10:50 pm

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Keith McNally February 26, 2021 - 12:25 am

Is Credit Shifu also an attorney? Looks like the case straight from WestLaw.

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Richard Forester February 26, 2021 - 12:31 am

I'm so nervous of being accused of manufactured spend that I never buy gift cards (which I give away as actual gifts) until minimum spend is done.

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G R February 26, 2021 - 12:42 am

Phew, for a sec there I thought I was going to be affected.

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Izzie Stevens February 26, 2021 - 12:48 am

Been a huge fan for years! Love your channel and this background music is maahhh jaaamm!

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Madeline Edwards February 26, 2021 - 12:51 am

Wow!!!😮😮😮

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mike February 26, 2021 - 12:53 am

If govt can tax it, it will

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MrTyBinary February 26, 2021 - 1:47 am

Anyone of you who is without sin can throw the first stone lol

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CJ Mor February 26, 2021 - 1:51 am

rookie ms mistake never buy giftcards at grocery stores with anything over level 2 data

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Travious Andrews February 26, 2021 - 2:13 am

These courts are corrupt!

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Joe S. February 26, 2021 - 2:28 am

Fucking government man! They always try to find a way to fuck you over by paying unnecessary taxes

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RAJohnson713 February 26, 2021 - 4:51 am

No way in HELL will i report my points to the IRS

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Paul F February 26, 2021 - 6:22 am

I think the actual moral of this story is we should all be looking for ways to scam amex. Apparently the only downside is having to give uncle sam his cut lol.

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Tiger Lily February 26, 2021 - 6:43 am

Ohhhh yeah. This is the big fish to the IRS.. not all the billionaire's dodging TAXES.

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anton lavey February 26, 2021 - 10:19 am

The so called unlawful law, does not apply to me.

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phanCAbe February 26, 2021 - 12:08 pm

Clickbait. You're better than this.

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Bully 86 February 26, 2021 - 5:36 pm

I know a couple of store. Where you can spend 1000’s and return it back to your debt card. Done it a couple of times. Free rewards or free borrow money with no cash advance fees.

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Centuri Capital February 26, 2021 - 6:27 pm

Buy gold on credit, sell for cash, pay back cards lmao

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BARLIGHTBROKER February 26, 2021 - 10:07 pm

A court here in the US is a kangaroo court of criminals and con men. There is no money. It's all debt notes.

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Jimmy Biggs February 27, 2021 - 1:37 pm

Fuck them!!! The courts abuse their power because the people let them!!!

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Debra Ferrara February 27, 2021 - 7:34 pm

Sounds just like the coupon games! So That's how people are getting Rich! Maybe It's Time for me to get to know these people ! Instead of the honest slow way!

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Jerald B February 27, 2021 - 9:53 pm

Haha, shady couple got busted. Love it!
Better for all of us that play by the spirit of the rules.

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Reuben Morris February 28, 2021 - 10:10 am

If I didn't have to work for a living I could think up a scheme like this.

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A Light February 28, 2021 - 10:44 pm

Question: When an entity run an individual’s credit can see how many credit cards the person has, open loans and etc. but how can a company or a government agency can know how many Bank accounts I have? I’m not asking if they can access to the balance or not, just to know how many or who am I banking with because Experian TransUnion and Equifax don’t have that record as far as I know!

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atlfun08 March 1, 2021 - 5:54 am

Who has the patience to buy that many gift cards…I'm way to lazy and I hate repetitive actions…talk about Bill Murray in Groundhog's Day! I'd be lose it 🤣

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ALFJAMXA James March 1, 2021 - 9:54 am

Rich people problems here. In this case, I'm sure American Express turned this couple in to the IRS because they found a way to take advantage of the "mostly ripoff" rewards program.

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Richard Chen March 1, 2021 - 8:51 pm

This is based that points actually have a monetary value. To achieve this, force the credit cards, airlines, and hotels to keep their point valuation stable at let’s say $0.015 per point. You should not be able to tax something where the owner of the points can make it worthless tomorrow if they feel like it.

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Xiao Liang March 2, 2021 - 3:23 pm

How many channel do you have Ben?

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